tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8398797088391606752.post3815280241317305536..comments2023-09-06T07:13:58.715-07:00Comments on PLEKTIX: The Evolution of CooperationBen Allenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15594823641514744644noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8398797088391606752.post-70363423128631483742010-08-31T09:40:47.976-07:002010-08-31T09:40:47.976-07:00Two years ago I wrote an artificial life simulatio...Two years ago I wrote an artificial life simulation for my pure math thesis (quite a stretch, I know!) and since then have been wondering about how to measure the complexity of phylogenetic trees (seeing as the simulations can capture copious such data). How random and cool to stumble upon it here! Do you have a link to the PDF perchance?taliesinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04584738046480528572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8398797088391606752.post-43361544984706198702009-01-07T18:49:00.000-08:002009-01-07T18:49:00.000-08:00@c_turchickI agree with the premise of your paper....@c_turchick<BR/><BR/>I agree with the premise of your paper. You would probably like <A HREF="http://emergentfool.com/2009/01/08/red-pill-or-blue-pill/" REL="nofollow">Jonathan Haidt's TED talk</A>.Rafe Fursthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00995234619199173547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8398797088391606752.post-11657517708589057152009-01-07T13:01:00.000-08:002009-01-07T13:01:00.000-08:00You know, introducing "selfish punishers" into the...You know, introducing "selfish punishers" into the mix is a pretty good idea! I'm not convinced it would change things, but it's worth finding out. I'll work on this when I get a chance.<BR/><BR/>Thanks!Ben Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15594823641514744644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8398797088391606752.post-18602758535213164682009-01-07T11:25:00.000-08:002009-01-07T11:25:00.000-08:00I would love it if someone with a mathematical bac...I would love it if someone with a mathematical background would create a model of the cooperate v selfish selection that includes the selfish being selfish. When punishment is modelled it is always assumed that only the cooperators are punishing. Empirical studies show selfish punish as much or more as cooperators, as we should expect, but this puzzles everyone else. Cooperators are a fitness limiting resource for selfish, and simple evolutionary theory tells us that selfish will select for the ability to maximize their fitness by excluding or impeeding other selfish. I believe this is likely the key to the puzzle here. <BR/>You might like my paper http://theroadtopeace.blogspot.com/wearetribalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04661000372404080503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8398797088391606752.post-60660550915313868632009-01-03T19:46:00.000-08:002009-01-03T19:46:00.000-08:00I don't think so--not any more than "cooperation" ...I don't think so--not any more than "cooperation" is dual to "operation." But it would be cool if it were!Ben Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15594823641514744644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8398797088391606752.post-61824375562158280922008-12-12T12:46:00.000-08:002008-12-12T12:46:00.000-08:00I touched on coevolution a bit here, but it's an i...<I>I touched on coevolution a bit here, but it's an important topic and I should return to it.</I><BR/><BR/>Is coevolution <A HREF="http://unapologetic.wordpress.com/2007/05/31/duality-terminology/" REL="nofollow">dual to</A> evolution?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8398797088391606752.post-18377285993598718292008-12-11T18:41:00.000-08:002008-12-11T18:41:00.000-08:00Thanks for the congrats, peeps! There's still ano...Thanks for the congrats, peeps! There's still another round of revisions to be done, followed presumably by more delay, so I'm not expecting any printing within a year. But it's good to be in.<BR/><BR/>@rafe-I have mixed feelings on this subject. On the one hand, global interconnection is increasing cross-cultural understanding and leading to global cooperation in areas like economics (and climate, I hope?) <BR/><BR/>On the other hand, we're getting to the point where we all sink or swim together. Our ecological problems are global rather than local, so we only get one chance from now on. This scares me.<BR/><BR/>@james-Yeah, it took me several years of grad school to realize all the cool things you could study as a mathematician. I touched on coevolution a bit <A HREF="http://plektix.blogspot.com/2008/09/evolution-and-interdependence.html" REL="nofollow">here</A>, but it's an important topic and I should return to it.<BR/><BR/>I have not tried blogging on Magic, though I do sometimes feel an urge to share my thoughts on the subject. Good luck with yours!Ben Allenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15594823641514744644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8398797088391606752.post-31111572492954891312008-12-11T09:03:00.000-08:002008-12-11T09:03:00.000-08:00congrats on your publication.interesting topic. i...congrats on your publication.<BR/><BR/>interesting topic. it's great to see how mathematics seeps into any topic, including ecology and evolution.<BR/><BR/>i'm currently reading _the dominant animal_ by eherlich and eherilich. def' a "layman's" book but that's fine. very interesting.<BR/><BR/>does coevolution affect your models at all?<BR/><BR/>do you ever blog on magic? (i found you through mtgsalvation. i'm just getting started <A HREF="http://www.power9pro.com/blog" REL="nofollow">blogging on magic</A>).jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17829917596986881405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8398797088391606752.post-35084190585024556592008-12-09T23:06:00.000-08:002008-12-09T23:06:00.000-08:00Good post, Ben.To your question: I would submit th...Good post, Ben.<BR/><BR/>To your question: I would submit that removal of spatial distance is only one aspect. With global interconnectedness via the internet, cell phones, etc, the impetus for competition is decreasing and the ability (and need) for cooperation is increasing.Rafe Fursthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00995234619199173547noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8398797088391606752.post-60288773641949053662008-12-05T09:49:00.000-08:002008-12-05T09:49:00.000-08:00Congrats on your publication! Do let us know when...Congrats on your publication! Do let us know when it officially appears.Blake Staceyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13977394981287067289noreply@blogger.com